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Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Dom Mar 13, 2011 11:53 am
por Luichi
Esteve, échale un vistazo a esto:

http://www.lutschi.biz/passat/schote/3B ... _an_3B.pdf

en este PDF, explican como han adaptado el sistema de apertura del 3BG al 3B, entonces,para no hacer tanto lío y tener que cambiar portón y demás, por lo que entiendo, si cojo el T23/13 del confort y le pongo un rele según el esquema que hay en el manual y alimento el motor que queremos poner para lo de la apertura automática de la siguiente manera:

T23/13---------pin 85 del rele
positivo 30-----pines 30 y 86 del rele (al enchufe del maletero)
pin 87 del rele--salida positiva al motor y el negativo de este a chasis

se supone que asi ya tendríamos el pop

no se si así estaría bien para que funcione el tema, a ver si tu, Esteve nos lo puedes confirmar

gracias
un saludo

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Dom Mar 13, 2011 12:05 pm
por Papapitufo
Revisando esquemas confirmo que:

- El bora, y el golf variant hasta el desde el 1999 hasta 2002 son los únicos que llevan apertura del maletero eléctrica con confort 1J0.

- Para hacer eso llevan un relé propio adicional en el portarelés, que controla solo el motor del pop, no controla el motor de cierre centralizado, eso lo hace la confort.

- En ningún caso con esta combinación se puede hacer pop con el mando a distancia, siempre funciona como te lo hace a ti Luichi ahora, al pulsar el boton desbloqueas el motor del cierre centralizado por unos segundos y puedes abrir tu el maletero manualmente.

Es decir, esto que cuelgas o un esquema equivalente puede usarse para activar el pop, si, esto ya lo sabiamos y no había problema. Lo que me interesa es el video de Nick, en que pulsa el botón del mando y el portón se abre, eso si me interesa.

No se si me explico....

Revisando el esquema del Bora 97-99, en el que se basa el esquema que aparece en el enlace, usa efectivamente los pines T23/21 y T23/13 para a través de un relé gobernar la apertura del portón. El tema es que no se si con el mando hace "pop".

Por tanto esperar a que tone investigue con Nick como lo ha hecho para lograr el pop con el mando y así mataremos dos pájaros de un tiro.

saludos

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Dom Mar 13, 2011 12:15 pm
por Luichi
ok, entonce no vale lo que te he dicho para haga pop, pero si se puede como lo ha hecho Nick, ¿es así?

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Dom Mar 13, 2011 12:24 pm
por Papapitufo
No, si vale seguro para el pop pulsando el boton de la manecilla de apertura del portón, lo que no se es si vale para que haga pop con el botón del mando de la llave.

Eso es lo que quiero asegurar, que podamos conseguir pop pulsando la manecilla de apertura del portón y pop pulsando el botón del mando a distancia. No solo uno de los dos.

saludos

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Dom Mar 13, 2011 4:37 pm
por Hephestos

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Lun Mar 14, 2011 12:07 pm
por Luichi
mira esto Esteve
http://www.golfv.de/board31-sonstige-fr ... 3%B6ffnen/

es lo mismo que te puse anteriormente?
un saludo

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Mar Mar 15, 2011 5:34 pm
por Luichi
bueno, a ver que os parece esto......


solo hay un inconveniente....que se abre siempre que abro el coche magreen
lo he conectado al otro motor para hacer la prueba...
en fin, no se si hay algún tipo de señal o remedio para que se abra solo el portón?, de momento le colocare un pulsador dentro del habitáculo ...
un saludo

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Mar Mar 15, 2011 6:05 pm
por Mondrollo
muy bien luis, al final lo has conseguido, por cierto que le has puesto lo que te comento tone o como lo tiene madelgado y esteve

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Mar Mar 15, 2011 6:37 pm
por Hephestos
La prueva perfecta, ahora falta dar con la señal apropiada

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Mié Mar 16, 2011 10:15 am
por Luichi

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Mié Mar 16, 2011 6:33 pm
por toneclio

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Jue Mar 17, 2011 11:39 am
por Luichi

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Jue Mar 17, 2011 9:19 pm
por Papapitufo

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Jue Mar 17, 2011 11:20 pm
por toneclio
Pensando, pensando :pensador: (igual es que se me ha ido la olla de manera irreversible) ...
Posibilidad :duda: de que al abrir el coche, la señal de apertura del portón NO actúe y que la CCM únicamente le dé chicha al motor del cierre del portón cuando pulsemos el botón central del mando a distancia o un pulsador interior? Lo que pretendo es que el maletero esté siempre cerrado, incluso con el coche abierto/circulando y al darle al botón los 2 motores trabajen simultáneamente liberando el portón.
Se os ocurre alguna forma de abortar el desbloqueo de la cerradura y que actúe únicamente gobernada por la CCM cuando pulsemos en el mando/pulsador?

Un saludo :bebido:

Re: Passat 3BG - Apertura remota (completa) de maletero

Publicado: Mar Mar 22, 2011 1:40 pm
por Luichi